Bill O'Reilly calls Courtney Martin from Women's Media Center on the carpet for never once defending Sarah Palin.
Thank you Mr. O'Reilly!
The Women's Media Center is also encouraging people to write Fox News about Bill's comment about Helen Thomas. I say we need to write the Women's Media Center about not defending Sarah Palin.
Thursday, February 12, 2009
O'Reilly vs. Women's Media Center
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Actually, the women's media center did speak out against sexism against Sarah Palin. Courtney Martin, who also writes for Feministing, had a whole series called the "Sarah Palin Sexism Watch."
Here's a link to one of the examples she gave of the sexism Palin faced, coming from Bill O'Reilly himself:
http://www.feministing.com/archives/011763.html
Here's another link directly from the women's media center:
http://womensmediacenter.com/wordpress/?p=380
Just because Bill O'Reilly doesn't do his research doesn't mean you shouldn't either.
Thanks but I did check out somethings over there. I found some links to pretty rude articles there.
As far as the link talking about The View, that's reaching especially considering the very rude remarks of Joy.
Be careful here - you are bordering on defamation. Your assertions are outright false re: the Women's Media Center not calling out sexism against Sarah Palin. Unless you like lawsuits, you really should heed what you read and realize that in this instance, you're picking on the wrong parties. Courtney Martin, the Women's Media Center and countless left of center men and women did indeed call out sexism.
Perhaps you're not sure what sexism is, since Sarah Palin allowed the McCain campaign to treat her in such a sexist way (remember Campbell Brown calling out the sexist treatment of Sarah Palin?). But regardless, seriously - you can't keep asserting what is blatantly untrue - that is in fact defamation. Please just recognize that O'Reilly didn't do his homework this time and should be picking on other people, if that's what he really needs to do for himself. But Courtney Martin and WMC are not the right targets, certainly not in the case of calling out sexism against Palin.
Uh...as Bill O'Reilly DID point out HIMSELF. The women's group ONLY went after him, and no one else.
In other words, O'Reilly made a slight joke and they nailed him, but all the other 999,999 liberals who attacked her saw the women's group stay silent.
O'Reilly is absolutely right. That bunch is nothing more than another left wing fringe group.
Following the advice in the first comment, I checked out the link to the "Sarah Palin Sexism Watch" at the Women's Media Center. Is this some kind of joke? Most of the items they link to try to EXPLAIN AWAY the sexism suffered by Governor Palin -- not to protest it in any way. In my mind, they just prove Bill O'Reilly's point! The WMC dropped the ball. And in my mind, it also did active harm. Here are a few excerpts that struck me in particular:
-- "It seems that Sarah Palin is the classic Mean Girl -- the unqualified woman the sexist boss hires to put down other women -- and that's the last thing we need in the White House."
-- "If power is the ultimate aphrodisiac, just who is seducing whom? Meet John McCain’s mannequin. Her name is Sarah Palin."
-- "Well, if we stop and think about it, then we will realize that it is not about electing a woman. It's about understanding the feminine principles, the feminine energy. And it doesn't necessarily have to come in a woman. So it's easy for me to look at Sarah Palin and say: oh, she is only representing the masculine energy, the masculine interests."
If you feel that those links indicate support of Sarah Palin you haven't learned to read. There is no support for your claim. You are a masquerading facade of women's support depending on who you like politically. Your group is a huge disappointment
THE WMC is just a bunch of bully girls - like many feminists. No wonder so many thank Sarah - they see her as delivering them from the very narrow views of these ridiculous groups like WMC.
And WMC has been very biased against Palin ... actually its been incredibly sexist. Shame on you.
You wrote that you believe the WMC is "just a bunch of bully girls." Sarah Palin considers herself a pitbull - are you suggesting she can't handle a bunch of bully girls?
I heard someone say, and I"m sorry I don't remember who it was who said it, that women's groups support other women ONLY if the other women in question believe exactly as they do. This may be what you're up against here. At any rate, I'm hoping they DID defend Sarah and we all missed it.
What I think is really wild is how this isn't about Sarah Palin and what the WMC did or didn't do.
This is about Bill O'Reilly picking on Helen Thomas' looks, age and the sound of her voice. How hard is it to separate these two?
I agree with you that the WMC should (and they DID) call out sexism all throughout the 2008 campaigns.
But how does what they did or didn't do relate to whether Bill O'Reilly was just plain wrong in attacking Helen Thomas' looks, age and sound of her voice?
You know, Sarah Palin has spent a lot of time since 11/08 talking about how poor she thinks journalism is. Don't you think she would be the first to say that Bill should stick to criticizing views and issues, rather than looks, age and the sound of someone's voice? That's not a gotcha - I'm saying, think about that. Seriously.
You can demand both, you know - that O'Reilly stick to issues and views critiques and not looks, age and the sound of Helen's voice, AND that groups like WMC call out sexism whereever it is, no matter who is involved.
Those two expectations are not mutually exclusive or dependent on each other.
"You know, Sarah Palin has spent a lot of time since 11/08 talking about how poor she thinks journalism is. Don't you think she would be the first to say that Bill should stick to criticizing views and issues, rather than looks, age and the sound of someone's voice? That's not a gotcha - I'm saying, think about that. Seriously."
Why should Palin or anybidy that supports Palin support an organisation that has done its best to trash her.
Please, start taking some responsibility for what you do, and living with the ramifications... credibility gap.
You do not deserve support fron ANY unbiased person.
Militantfeather - why do you keep ignoring the specific issue at hand re: O'Reilly?
Honey, I don't need your support and I've never requested it - whomever runs this site wrote this post - I had zilcho to do with that.
So again - O'Reilly started it - you are refusing to address it:
Do you support Bill O'Reilly making fun of Helen Thomas' looks, age and voice, as opposed to addressing her issues and views? If so, what is your reasoning for supporting that?
jill baby, your org is selective about is support of women.
Thats hypocrisy. Who wants to support hypocrisy, other than those that share that hypocrisy?
It looks like you lot are not just unethical, but clueless as well.
So. No thanks. NO. Noooo.
bye
Militantfeather baby -
It's not "my org" - nice way to try and demonize - too bad it doesn't work. You all tried that with Obama too - didn't work then either (re: Ayers, Wright, etc). We're all adults and I take responsibility for what I say here - I don't know that the WMC would even have me, so you know - just hit me up - leave them out.
And answer the question:
Do you support Bill O'Reilly making fun of Helen Thomas' looks, age and voice, as opposed to addressing her issues and views? If so, what is your reasoning for supporting that?
Jill,
O'Reilly may have made fun of Helen Thomas, but it was fairly mild in comparison to the stuff of any given Saturday Night Live, South Park, or even Keith O's "Worst Person in the World" crap. He makes fun of men, too--and the WMC doesn't hold up their skirts and scream mouse. Grow a thicker skin already. Nowhere does the Constitution require us to play nice all the time, or roll over and apologize every time some whiny group gets their panties in a twist.
Jacklyn,
Have you given Sarah Palin that get a thicker skin talk lately. She was just on Fox in the last 24 hours calling the media "evil" again.
But more to your point, you wrote, "O'Reilly may have made fun of Helen Thomas, but it was fairly mild in comparison to the stuff of any given Saturday Night Live, South Park, or even Keith O's "Worst Person in the World" crap."
You still don't answer the question:
Do you support Bill O'Reilly making fun of Helen Thomas' looks, age and voice, as opposed to addressing her issues and views? If so, what is your reasoning for supporting that?
Comparing him to late-night television comedians doesn't answer that question unless you're saying that late-night comedians can mock people the way O'Reilly does.
In which case, let's get Fox to put him on only on Saturday nights opposite SNL. I didn't realize it was his raison d'étre to be a comedian - but yeah, maybe you are right - he's like Jerry Lewis or someone?
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